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	<title>Comments on: Budget Reduction &#8211; Results from Builder &amp; Architect Meeting</title>
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		<title>By: honeybee33</title>
		<link>http://www.100khouse.com/2008/08/07/budget-reduction-results-from-builder-architect-meeting/comment-page-1/#comment-2233</link>
		<dc:creator>honeybee33</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chad --

You said:

&quot;Also, I will throw this idea out there. Maybe this will be a future post but I think there is a market for an almost completely bare green home that has a kick-ass envelope and HVAC system installed.&quot;

To answer your question, that is almost *exactly* what my husband and I have been (unsuccessfully!) looking for here in the Boston area.  We are both quite handy (construction and design-wise), have limited upfront investment resources, and specific tastes.  Getting the &quot;stripped-down&quot; version and doing it ourselves as we can afford it is a way we can grow equity while getting the customization of a new-build.  (and, we feel, more green than ripping out someone else&#039;s granite-countertop &quot;upgrade&quot; ... )

From your lips to G-d&#039;s ears!

~ hb33 ~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chad &#8211;</p>
<p>You said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Also, I will throw this idea out there. Maybe this will be a future post but I think there is a market for an almost completely bare green home that has a kick-ass envelope and HVAC system installed.&#8221;</p>
<p>To answer your question, that is almost *exactly* what my husband and I have been (unsuccessfully!) looking for here in the Boston area.  We are both quite handy (construction and design-wise), have limited upfront investment resources, and specific tastes.  Getting the &#8220;stripped-down&#8221; version and doing it ourselves as we can afford it is a way we can grow equity while getting the customization of a new-build.  (and, we feel, more green than ripping out someone else&#8217;s granite-countertop &#8220;upgrade&#8221; &#8230; )</p>
<p>From your lips to G-d&#8217;s ears!</p>
<p>~ hb33 ~</p>
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		<title>By: chad</title>
		<link>http://www.100khouse.com/2008/08/07/budget-reduction-results-from-builder-architect-meeting/comment-page-1/#comment-1170</link>
		<dc:creator>chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the tip Travis, but I&#039;m a bit confused. Wouldn&#039;t slate just be another type of tile? How would it save on labor costs? Is there some type of install detail I am unaware of...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the tip Travis, but I&#8217;m a bit confused. Wouldn&#8217;t slate just be another type of tile? How would it save on labor costs? Is there some type of install detail I am unaware of&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Travis</title>
		<link>http://www.100khouse.com/2008/08/07/budget-reduction-results-from-builder-architect-meeting/comment-page-1/#comment-1169</link>
		<dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For $2/sf you could do slate in the bathroom instead of tile.  Penn Big Bed Slate in Slatington, PA.  This would also save labor cost over tile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For $2/sf you could do slate in the bathroom instead of tile.  Penn Big Bed Slate in Slatington, PA.  This would also save labor cost over tile.</p>
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		<title>By: tracy</title>
		<link>http://www.100khouse.com/2008/08/07/budget-reduction-results-from-builder-architect-meeting/comment-page-1/#comment-1167</link>
		<dc:creator>tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m convinced! to hell with installing standard old reach-in closets...save the money in the budget...let the new owner decide. hooray! lol. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m convinced! to hell with installing standard old reach-in closets&#8230;save the money in the budget&#8230;let the new owner decide. hooray! lol. <img src='http://www.100khouse.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: chad</title>
		<link>http://www.100khouse.com/2008/08/07/budget-reduction-results-from-builder-architect-meeting/comment-page-1/#comment-1166</link>
		<dc:creator>chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bottom line here is that people have a lot of different tastes in closets or multi-use closet type space. This could be seen as another reason not to include the closet as standard equipment, especially if it&#039;s a bare box with a rod or two thrown in.

Another point that&#039;s worth making is that we have discussed how this initial 100K design may be come to be seen as the &quot;loft&quot; version in the future due to its open and minimalist design. Most lofts do not have built in closets including the one I live in. 

Starting with the idea of an open loft helped the project in multiple ways. We immediately eliminated costs associated with internal doors and excess walls. We also were able to simplify the HVAC system as the house became one large zone rather than individual rooms that required expensive ducting.

In the future we may decide to create a more standard version of the 100K model with divided rooms. That doesn&#039;t mean that closets will necessarily be standard equipment though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bottom line here is that people have a lot of different tastes in closets or multi-use closet type space. This could be seen as another reason not to include the closet as standard equipment, especially if it&#8217;s a bare box with a rod or two thrown in.</p>
<p>Another point that&#8217;s worth making is that we have discussed how this initial 100K design may be come to be seen as the &#8220;loft&#8221; version in the future due to its open and minimalist design. Most lofts do not have built in closets including the one I live in. </p>
<p>Starting with the idea of an open loft helped the project in multiple ways. We immediately eliminated costs associated with internal doors and excess walls. We also were able to simplify the HVAC system as the house became one large zone rather than individual rooms that required expensive ducting.</p>
<p>In the future we may decide to create a more standard version of the 100K model with divided rooms. That doesn&#8217;t mean that closets will necessarily be standard equipment though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lavardera</title>
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		<dc:creator>lavardera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like this one:
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S99850643
still has to work out cheaper than studs, drywall, sliding or bifold doors...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like this one:<br />
<a href="http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S99850643" rel="nofollow">http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/S99850643</a><br />
still has to work out cheaper than studs, drywall, sliding or bifold doors&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tracy</title>
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		<dc:creator>tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and i like this discussion too cause it&#039;s making me think through things more thoroughly. but i have to say i prefer something industrial looking, like Chad attached, vs. a wardrobe which, no matter the design, makes me think of something older not modern. and given money is a constraint here, you have to give that it&#039;s due. 

for me, i&#039;m torn between wanting to make a whole wall a closet with bamboo or recycled material doors and make it a cool looking feature behind which to put clothes, and or a tv, a desk, whatever else you want in the room so that when it&#039;s closed, the room had the bed and not much else. Vs. having the clothes out in the open with what Chad shared because i&#039;m thinking psychologically it would help us to realize we have a lot of clothes already and hopefully stem off buying unnecessary items and we&#039;d want to keep it neat (for guests that come by) and this would force us to look at the edit our wardrobe down more often then if stuff is buried in a closet that we can&#039;t see and never wear.

i know this is a little off the point here but i&#039;m realizing more and more lately that it&#039;s not just about recycling but about consumption to begin with. on a Primetime show on China the other day, they said that if China consumed the way Americans did, we&#039;d need another planet. that&#039;s frigin scarey.

sorry for the digression! just figured this crowd would understand. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and i like this discussion too cause it&#8217;s making me think through things more thoroughly. but i have to say i prefer something industrial looking, like Chad attached, vs. a wardrobe which, no matter the design, makes me think of something older not modern. and given money is a constraint here, you have to give that it&#8217;s due. </p>
<p>for me, i&#8217;m torn between wanting to make a whole wall a closet with bamboo or recycled material doors and make it a cool looking feature behind which to put clothes, and or a tv, a desk, whatever else you want in the room so that when it&#8217;s closed, the room had the bed and not much else. Vs. having the clothes out in the open with what Chad shared because i&#8217;m thinking psychologically it would help us to realize we have a lot of clothes already and hopefully stem off buying unnecessary items and we&#8217;d want to keep it neat (for guests that come by) and this would force us to look at the edit our wardrobe down more often then if stuff is buried in a closet that we can&#8217;t see and never wear.</p>
<p>i know this is a little off the point here but i&#8217;m realizing more and more lately that it&#8217;s not just about recycling but about consumption to begin with. on a Primetime show on China the other day, they said that if China consumed the way Americans did, we&#8217;d need another planet. that&#8217;s frigin scarey.</p>
<p>sorry for the digression! just figured this crowd would understand. <img src='http://www.100khouse.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahahahaha, Chad you are awesome! I have to say I have been persuaded by this discussion a bit. While I can see the point of wardrobes over closets, I am not a huge fan of Ikea with respect to quality and sustainablilty. And a well made wardrobe is certianly more expensive than a 2x4 framed closet. I do like the pipe closet, and in fact I have seen similar ones done with pipe and steal cable, suspending the pipe from the ceiling and tying it to the floor with the cable. They looked very sleek and modern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hahahahaha, Chad you are awesome! I have to say I have been persuaded by this discussion a bit. While I can see the point of wardrobes over closets, I am not a huge fan of Ikea with respect to quality and sustainablilty. And a well made wardrobe is certianly more expensive than a 2&#215;4 framed closet. I do like the pipe closet, and in fact I have seen similar ones done with pipe and steal cable, suspending the pipe from the ceiling and tying it to the floor with the cable. They looked very sleek and modern.</p>
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		<title>By: chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice! I was going to wait till later but here is what I plan to build and put there. Don&#039;t tell my wife.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/postgreen/2131210769/in/set-72157603527185360/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/postgreen/2131987322/in/set-72157603527185360/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice! I was going to wait till later but here is what I plan to build and put there. Don&#8217;t tell my wife.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/postgreen/2131210769/in/set-72157603527185360/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/postgreen/2131210769/in/set-72157603527185360/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/postgreen/2131987322/in/set-72157603527185360/" rel="nofollow">http://www.flickr.com/photos/postgreen/2131987322/in/set-72157603527185360/</a></p>
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		<title>By: moderns-r-us</title>
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		<dc:creator>moderns-r-us</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Aug 2008 03:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are just a few Ikea options:

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/60120575

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/14903207

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/20093060</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are just a few Ikea options:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/60120575" rel="nofollow">http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/60120575</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/14903207" rel="nofollow">http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/14903207</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/20093060" rel="nofollow">http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/20093060</a></p>
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