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	<title>Comments on: New ISA Project &#8211; Fishtown Zoning Meeting TONIGHT</title>
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		<title>By: Anne Weisman</title>
		<link>http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/12/new-isa-project-fishtown-zoning-meeting-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-3475</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne Weisman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you guys considered advertising or promoting your ideas to burned out Coatesville?  Their may be a market for you their.  I bet they were of the 3 bedroom row house model, but their may be demand for what your company offers, and the nice pricetag.  Ever look at doing &quot;double wides?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you guys considered advertising or promoting your ideas to burned out Coatesville?  Their may be a market for you their.  I bet they were of the 3 bedroom row house model, but their may be demand for what your company offers, and the nice pricetag.  Ever look at doing &#8220;double wides?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin D</title>
		<link>http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/12/new-isa-project-fishtown-zoning-meeting-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-1888</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 02:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Denver, City Council&#039;s raison d&#039;etre is zoning.

Here&#039;s a quote from an actual Denver city councilperson when I asked her why there was no sturm and drang over townhouse redevelopment in her district:
&quot;I think the acceptance has come over time.  Initially (there was pushback for various reasons).  I remember a big dispute over a huge, old elm, but I wasn&#039;t in office then.  The acceptance came as the old timers moved out and property values rose.&quot;

She could also have said &quot;as the old timers died&quot;.

Zoning policy should be framed for our grandchildren, not us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Denver, City Council&#8217;s raison d&#8217;etre is zoning.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a quote from an actual Denver city councilperson when I asked her why there was no sturm and drang over townhouse redevelopment in her district:<br />
&#8220;I think the acceptance has come over time.  Initially (there was pushback for various reasons).  I remember a big dispute over a huge, old elm, but I wasn&#8217;t in office then.  The acceptance came as the old timers moved out and property values rose.&#8221;</p>
<p>She could also have said &#8220;as the old timers died&#8221;.</p>
<p>Zoning policy should be framed for our grandchildren, not us.</p>
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		<title>By: lavardera</title>
		<link>http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/12/new-isa-project-fishtown-zoning-meeting-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-1887</link>
		<dc:creator>lavardera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 00:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole idea of &quot;zoning approval&quot; is going to split people down two sides. I don&#039;t think its fair to point a finger at either side when the condition is inherent in the process. Chads commentary on this was offered with humor and I think that was pretty evident in the comments as well.

Anyway, every redevelopment project faces resistance. The neighborhood is seeing change. The Hipsters as you put it are bringing investment to the area, and in the process transforming it into their vision of a livable neighborhood. If the existing property owners have a different vision then they have to initiate projects that demonstrate the same. Honestly I don&#039;t think they have that vision defined, and if they do then I suspect its not compelling to attract investment. Thats not fair or unfair - its just economics. 

I find it hard to feel compassion for the stance that resists this development though. This is not a proposal to move toxic industry into the neighborhood, or to destroy farms or natural lands to build more houses. I think at most it boils down to a difference in aesthetics, and that is a difficult leg to stand on in opposition in a culture that values diversity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole idea of &#8220;zoning approval&#8221; is going to split people down two sides. I don&#8217;t think its fair to point a finger at either side when the condition is inherent in the process. Chads commentary on this was offered with humor and I think that was pretty evident in the comments as well.</p>
<p>Anyway, every redevelopment project faces resistance. The neighborhood is seeing change. The Hipsters as you put it are bringing investment to the area, and in the process transforming it into their vision of a livable neighborhood. If the existing property owners have a different vision then they have to initiate projects that demonstrate the same. Honestly I don&#8217;t think they have that vision defined, and if they do then I suspect its not compelling to attract investment. Thats not fair or unfair &#8211; its just economics. </p>
<p>I find it hard to feel compassion for the stance that resists this development though. This is not a proposal to move toxic industry into the neighborhood, or to destroy farms or natural lands to build more houses. I think at most it boils down to a difference in aesthetics, and that is a difficult leg to stand on in opposition in a culture that values diversity.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/12/new-isa-project-fishtown-zoning-meeting-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-1886</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to.....

 &quot;If you love modern architecture, it’s important that you make it out and vote because the 

neighborhood doesn’t always see the vision if it’s not covered in builder grade brick and vinyl 

windows… Be there Fishtowners!&quot;

Im lost to the hype here.  These are nice looking, well designed, and and Im sure beautifully 

functioning houses, but, in a nutshell, can someone please remind me what the &quot;vision&quot; is that the 

&quot;neighborhood&quot; is supposed to be seeing?  Looks and sounds like a class struggle to me.  Why are you 

surprised that its getting a negative reaction from working class folks.  This is foreign information.  

The city has always been in flux and is never fixed, so Im all about rethinking contextualism, but when 

you set up the dialogue to be modern architecture vs. builder-grade, youre going to get pushed back at 

by the builders, and rightfully so.  Thats some seriously classist talk, and you want Fishtowners to 

support you?

With so much creative potential, Im wondering if there is another way.  Can we actually remake our 

&#039;hoods in a way that neither allows blight to continue, nor creates a culture so entitled to its need 

for resources and entertainment (&quot;love&quot; for modern architecture) that it fails to see its own negative 

effects on the very places it wishes to transform?  Making good houses cheap is righteous, but 

practicing a willful blindness to the results of your actions is as ugly as the blight you wish to 

eradicate.  

Nice cement board siding though.  I really hope this gets built.  But don&#039;t you have a bigger vision 

than just how great your work is and how we ought to come out and support it? I think so, but when I 

read through this blog (and many others like it) Im disapointed at how self-congratulatory and 

self-righteous the dwell-culture has become.  What are you guys about anyway?  You talk about the 

triple bottom line, so how is this about people again?  How is it about anyone beyond those happy 

hipsters in the renderings?  If the neighbors dont want it, then why do you want to do it?  Maybe if 

their kids could afford them it would be a different story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to&#8230;..</p>
<p> &#8220;If you love modern architecture, it’s important that you make it out and vote because the </p>
<p>neighborhood doesn’t always see the vision if it’s not covered in builder grade brick and vinyl </p>
<p>windows… Be there Fishtowners!&#8221;</p>
<p>Im lost to the hype here.  These are nice looking, well designed, and and Im sure beautifully </p>
<p>functioning houses, but, in a nutshell, can someone please remind me what the &#8220;vision&#8221; is that the </p>
<p>&#8220;neighborhood&#8221; is supposed to be seeing?  Looks and sounds like a class struggle to me.  Why are you </p>
<p>surprised that its getting a negative reaction from working class folks.  This is foreign information.  </p>
<p>The city has always been in flux and is never fixed, so Im all about rethinking contextualism, but when </p>
<p>you set up the dialogue to be modern architecture vs. builder-grade, youre going to get pushed back at </p>
<p>by the builders, and rightfully so.  Thats some seriously classist talk, and you want Fishtowners to </p>
<p>support you?</p>
<p>With so much creative potential, Im wondering if there is another way.  Can we actually remake our </p>
<p>&#8216;hoods in a way that neither allows blight to continue, nor creates a culture so entitled to its need </p>
<p>for resources and entertainment (&#8220;love&#8221; for modern architecture) that it fails to see its own negative </p>
<p>effects on the very places it wishes to transform?  Making good houses cheap is righteous, but </p>
<p>practicing a willful blindness to the results of your actions is as ugly as the blight you wish to </p>
<p>eradicate.  </p>
<p>Nice cement board siding though.  I really hope this gets built.  But don&#8217;t you have a bigger vision </p>
<p>than just how great your work is and how we ought to come out and support it? I think so, but when I </p>
<p>read through this blog (and many others like it) Im disapointed at how self-congratulatory and </p>
<p>self-righteous the dwell-culture has become.  What are you guys about anyway?  You talk about the </p>
<p>triple bottom line, so how is this about people again?  How is it about anyone beyond those happy </p>
<p>hipsters in the renderings?  If the neighbors dont want it, then why do you want to do it?  Maybe if </p>
<p>their kids could afford them it would be a different story.</p>
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		<title>By: Roman</title>
		<link>http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/12/new-isa-project-fishtown-zoning-meeting-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-1885</link>
		<dc:creator>Roman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couple thoughts on this project. First, I can&#039;t believe that parking got brought up as an issue yet again. I took a stroll on the block of Tulip where the development was proposed and there were easily 30 open parking spaces. The street was completely empty. This is on top of the dedicated parking spoty that comes with each unit. 

Second, it&#039;ll be interesting to see how ZBA rules on this. It&#039;s my impression that it has become less reliant on neighborhood opinion during the Nutter administration (for better or worse). Chad, do you know what the final tally was?

Last, the yuppy vs. union paradigm is just so tired. Granted, the developer could&#039;ve done more to engender good will during the Memphis Flats construction, but with all the problems facing this city, you&#039;d think that we could move on beyond the whole longtimers vs noobie nonsense. Rant over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couple thoughts on this project. First, I can&#8217;t believe that parking got brought up as an issue yet again. I took a stroll on the block of Tulip where the development was proposed and there were easily 30 open parking spaces. The street was completely empty. This is on top of the dedicated parking spoty that comes with each unit. </p>
<p>Second, it&#8217;ll be interesting to see how ZBA rules on this. It&#8217;s my impression that it has become less reliant on neighborhood opinion during the Nutter administration (for better or worse). Chad, do you know what the final tally was?</p>
<p>Last, the yuppy vs. union paradigm is just so tired. Granted, the developer could&#8217;ve done more to engender good will during the Memphis Flats construction, but with all the problems facing this city, you&#8217;d think that we could move on beyond the whole longtimers vs noobie nonsense. Rant over.</p>
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		<title>By: chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The community was not in favor of the project according to the voting results. I believe the developer plans to move forward with their scheduled ZBA hearing despite the negative vote.

The union was out in strong force even if they didn&#039;t live in the neighborhood. They made it mainly a labor issue which has nothing to do with the zoning issues being presented. Ahh Philly...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The community was not in favor of the project according to the voting results. I believe the developer plans to move forward with their scheduled ZBA hearing despite the negative vote.</p>
<p>The union was out in strong force even if they didn&#8217;t live in the neighborhood. They made it mainly a labor issue which has nothing to do with the zoning issues being presented. Ahh Philly&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lavardera</title>
		<link>http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/12/new-isa-project-fishtown-zoning-meeting-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-1871</link>
		<dc:creator>lavardera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope the mayor comes out to the opening/dedication of the 100k House. 

BTW, how did the meeting go last night? Did all those transparent people show up to support the project?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope the mayor comes out to the opening/dedication of the 100k House. </p>
<p>BTW, how did the meeting go last night? Did all those transparent people show up to support the project?</p>
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		<title>By: chad</title>
		<link>http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/12/new-isa-project-fishtown-zoning-meeting-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-1870</link>
		<dc:creator>chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 19:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have our first meeting with the city on the 18th regarding us purchasing a vacant parcel that they own in our neighborhood. It should be a good barometer for our ability to obtain land from the city.  

Rumor has it that the Nutter administration is working on ways to get this vast resource of land into private developers&#039; hands while increasing the amount of new homes available for purchase between $200K and $300K. Sounds like a good fit to someone&#039;s business model...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have our first meeting with the city on the 18th regarding us purchasing a vacant parcel that they own in our neighborhood. It should be a good barometer for our ability to obtain land from the city.  </p>
<p>Rumor has it that the Nutter administration is working on ways to get this vast resource of land into private developers&#8217; hands while increasing the amount of new homes available for purchase between $200K and $300K. Sounds like a good fit to someone&#8217;s business model&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin D</title>
		<link>http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/12/new-isa-project-fishtown-zoning-meeting-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-1869</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another aspect of this that REALLY intrigues me is that a new 100k house on cheap enough land could even rent for enough to make a monthly profit.   Then who needs those pesky homebuyers who want granite countertops?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another aspect of this that REALLY intrigues me is that a new 100k house on cheap enough land could even rent for enough to make a monthly profit.   Then who needs those pesky homebuyers who want granite countertops?</p>
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		<title>By: lavardera</title>
		<link>http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/12/new-isa-project-fishtown-zoning-meeting-tonight/comment-page-1/#comment-1868</link>
		<dc:creator>lavardera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:36:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A small land give away would certainly create a nice buffer in the margin, and would not be an unreasonable way for the city to jump start redevelopment in some of these neighborhoods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A small land give away would certainly create a nice buffer in the margin, and would not be an unreasonable way for the city to jump start redevelopment in some of these neighborhoods.</p>
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