Comments on: The Hops Shortage and Eating Locally http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/18/the-hops-shortage-and-eating-locally/ All things modern, affordable and green Wed, 08 Sep 2010 14:05:48 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Daily Koan » Think Gobally, Drink Locally http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/18/the-hops-shortage-and-eating-locally/comment-page-1/#comment-2316 Daily Koan » Think Gobally, Drink Locally Sun, 18 Jan 2009 05:56:16 +0000 http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/18/the-hops-shortage-and-eating-locally/#comment-2316 [...] to look for alternatives to traditional supplies and the consensus might just give rise to stronger local economies in more areas than just beer.  So drink up, it taste good, you get buzzed, and now it is both a public service [...] [...] to look for alternatives to traditional supplies and the consensus might just give rise to stronger local economies in more areas than just beer.  So drink up, it taste good, you get buzzed, and now it is both a public service [...]

]]> By: Nic Darling http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/18/the-hops-shortage-and-eating-locally/comment-page-1/#comment-1990 Nic Darling Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:55:29 +0000 http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/18/the-hops-shortage-and-eating-locally/#comment-1990 I almost forgot my promise of a beer for the best comment on this post. Jesse, your comment was good and it was first, but it knocked Double IPAs. While that may have been valid, I am going to use it as an excuse to award my best comment pint to Stephen (I like hops). Besides, from reading your blog, it seems you get enough beer anyway. Congrats Stephen. I always like a comment that demands a response. I don't know when our paths might cross. But, when they do, I owe you a beer. Be sure to remind me. I almost forgot my promise of a beer for the best comment on this post.

Jesse, your comment was good and it was first, but it knocked Double IPAs. While that may have been valid, I am going to use it as an excuse to award my best comment pint to Stephen (I like hops). Besides, from reading your blog, it seems you get enough beer anyway.

Congrats Stephen. I always like a comment that demands a response. I don’t know when our paths might cross. But, when they do, I owe you a beer. Be sure to remind me.

]]> By: Nic Darling http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/18/the-hops-shortage-and-eating-locally/comment-page-1/#comment-1920 Nic Darling Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:33:59 +0000 http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/18/the-hops-shortage-and-eating-locally/#comment-1920 Jesse, thanks for the comment. I took a look at your blog and as a fellow lover of beer I'll definitely be checking in again. I agree that American craft breweries got a bit carried away with the "hop bomb" and for a while that seemed like the arena in which small brewers tried to make a name for themselves. The hop shortage has definitely had the positive effect of encouraging more varied experimentation. That said, I still love hops and the double IPA will always have a seat at my table. Everyone, sorry about the slow response to comments this past week. Greenbuild was a bit of a distraction. Jesse, thanks for the comment. I took a look at your blog and as a fellow lover of beer I’ll definitely be checking in again.

I agree that American craft breweries got a bit carried away with the “hop bomb” and for a while that seemed like the arena in which small brewers tried to make a name for themselves. The hop shortage has definitely had the positive effect of encouraging more varied experimentation. That said, I still love hops and the double IPA will always have a seat at my table.

Everyone, sorry about the slow response to comments this past week. Greenbuild was a bit of a distraction.

]]> By: Nic Darling http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/18/the-hops-shortage-and-eating-locally/comment-page-1/#comment-1919 Nic Darling Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:21:27 +0000 http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/18/the-hops-shortage-and-eating-locally/#comment-1919 Stephen - Excellent points. I agree that the cost of locally grown food remains prohibitive for most of us. The question is, can this cost be corrected? I would certainly not suggest a government mandate to purchase locally, but perhaps an incentive to sell locally could be instituted. Maybe our farm subsidy program could be adjusted to subsidize growers who produce food for the local economy. This could make it cost-effective to continue farming on land the tract housing developers are buying up. There is also a definite sense of entitlement when it comes to eating strawberries in January or mangoes in Maine. I don't think this can or even should be fought ( I like a good mango). But, there is a balance that needs to be struck between local and global production. I think we should simply try to make local, in-season goods more affordable than those that require excessive storage and transportation. Your suggestion of increased transport costs may be part of that solution. Stephen – Excellent points. I agree that the cost of locally grown food remains prohibitive for most of us. The question is, can this cost be corrected?

I would certainly not suggest a government mandate to purchase locally, but perhaps an incentive to sell locally could be instituted. Maybe our farm subsidy program could be adjusted to subsidize growers who produce food for the local economy. This could make it cost-effective to continue farming on land the tract housing developers are buying up.

There is also a definite sense of entitlement when it comes to eating strawberries in January or mangoes in Maine. I don’t think this can or even should be fought ( I like a good mango). But, there is a balance that needs to be struck between local and global production. I think we should simply try to make local, in-season goods more affordable than those that require excessive storage and transportation. Your suggestion of increased transport costs may be part of that solution.

]]> By: Alternative Fuels Now » DrumBeat: November 19, 2008 http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/18/the-hops-shortage-and-eating-locally/comment-page-1/#comment-1915 Alternative Fuels Now » DrumBeat: November 19, 2008 Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:03:14 +0000 http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/18/the-hops-shortage-and-eating-locally/#comment-1915 [...] The Hops Shortage and Eating Locally Much like the way in which the gas shortage of the seventies and the recent high prices we have seen at the pump have begun to change our view on energy consumption, the hops shortage made brewers take a closer look at their supply chains. This has led to a movement toward localization for many craft breweries, including partnerships with local farmers to grow hops and grain in close proximity to their operations. This adjustment lowers the effect of price fluctuations, reduces the impact of transportation and allows breweries to have better quality control regardless of their relative size. It turns out there are great hop growing climates throughout the country that have gone unused as the model shifted toward large multinational producers. Now, with prices on the rise and scarcity threatening the brewing of great beers, the local grower is starting to look better and better. [...] [...] The Hops Shortage and Eating Locally Much like the way in which the gas shortage of the seventies and the recent high prices we have seen at the pump have begun to change our view on energy consumption, the hops shortage made brewers take a closer look at their supply chains. This has led to a movement toward localization for many craft breweries, including partnerships with local farmers to grow hops and grain in close proximity to their operations. This adjustment lowers the effect of price fluctuations, reduces the impact of transportation and allows breweries to have better quality control regardless of their relative size. It turns out there are great hop growing climates throughout the country that have gone unused as the model shifted toward large multinational producers. Now, with prices on the rise and scarcity threatening the brewing of great beers, the local grower is starting to look better and better. [...]

]]> By: Alternative Fuels Now » DrumBeat: November 19, 2008 http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/18/the-hops-shortage-and-eating-locally/comment-page-1/#comment-1916 Alternative Fuels Now » DrumBeat: November 19, 2008 Sun, 23 Nov 2008 09:03:14 +0000 http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/18/the-hops-shortage-and-eating-locally/#comment-1916 [...] The Hops Shortage and Eating Locally Much like the way in which the gas shortage of the seventies and the recent high prices we have seen at the pump have begun to change our view on energy consumption, the hops shortage made brewers take a closer look at their supply chains. This has led to a movement toward localization for many craft breweries, including partnerships with local farmers to grow hops and grain in close proximity to their operations. This adjustment lowers the effect of price fluctuations, reduces the impact of transportation and allows breweries to have better quality control regardless of their relative size. It turns out there are great hop growing climates throughout the country that have gone unused as the model shifted toward large multinational producers. Now, with prices on the rise and scarcity threatening the brewing of great beers, the local grower is starting to look better and better. [...] [...] The Hops Shortage and Eating Locally Much like the way in which the gas shortage of the seventies and the recent high prices we have seen at the pump have begun to change our view on energy consumption, the hops shortage made brewers take a closer look at their supply chains. This has led to a movement toward localization for many craft breweries, including partnerships with local farmers to grow hops and grain in close proximity to their operations. This adjustment lowers the effect of price fluctuations, reduces the impact of transportation and allows breweries to have better quality control regardless of their relative size. It turns out there are great hop growing climates throughout the country that have gone unused as the model shifted toward large multinational producers. Now, with prices on the rise and scarcity threatening the brewing of great beers, the local grower is starting to look better and better. [...]

]]> By: DrumBeat: November 19, 2008 http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/18/the-hops-shortage-and-eating-locally/comment-page-1/#comment-1914 DrumBeat: November 19, 2008 Sun, 23 Nov 2008 03:02:18 +0000 http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/18/the-hops-shortage-and-eating-locally/#comment-1914 [...] The Hops Shortage and Eating Locally Much like the way in which the gas shortage of the seventies and the recent high prices we have seen at the pump have begun to change our view on energy consumption, the hops shortage made brewers take a closer look at their supply chains. This has led to a movement toward localization for many craft breweries, including partnerships with local farmers to grow hops and grain in close proximity to their operations. This adjustment lowers the effect of price fluctuations, reduces the impact of transportation and allows breweries to have better quality control regardless of their relative size. It turns out there are great hop growing climates throughout the country that have gone unused as the model shifted toward large multinational producers. Now, with prices on the rise and scarcity threatening the brewing of great beers, the local grower is starting to look better and better. [...] [...] The Hops Shortage and Eating Locally Much like the way in which the gas shortage of the seventies and the recent high prices we have seen at the pump have begun to change our view on energy consumption, the hops shortage made brewers take a closer look at their supply chains. This has led to a movement toward localization for many craft breweries, including partnerships with local farmers to grow hops and grain in close proximity to their operations. This adjustment lowers the effect of price fluctuations, reduces the impact of transportation and allows breweries to have better quality control regardless of their relative size. It turns out there are great hop growing climates throughout the country that have gone unused as the model shifted toward large multinational producers. Now, with prices on the rise and scarcity threatening the brewing of great beers, the local grower is starting to look better and better. [...]

]]> By: Stephen Lyle http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/18/the-hops-shortage-and-eating-locally/comment-page-1/#comment-1908 Stephen Lyle Thu, 20 Nov 2008 02:11:53 +0000 http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/18/the-hops-shortage-and-eating-locally/#comment-1908 Good thoughts. But as someone in the food biz, (I own a restaurant) I unfortunately must report that now, more than ever, buying local is for the at least moderately wealthy. I can afford to buy some vegetables from Union Square that I feature in specials, but on the whole they are too pricey, and prices went up even higher this year. The cost of food unavoidably hits poor people the hardest, so it is difficult to argue that govenment should mandate more expensive food. It is also going to be unpopular to tell people in the North East all they get to eat in the winter are rutabagas. I would argue for gently but ever increasing taxes on carbon spewing transportation fuel to get things to transition in the right direction. Food transported by electrically powered trains from clean sources would be cool. This happens in Europe.. Good thoughts. But as someone in the food biz, (I own a restaurant) I unfortunately must report that now, more than ever, buying local is for the at least moderately wealthy. I can afford to buy some vegetables from Union Square that I feature in specials, but on the whole they are too pricey, and prices went up even higher this year. The cost of food unavoidably hits poor people the hardest, so it is difficult to argue that govenment should mandate more expensive food. It is also going to be unpopular to tell people in the North East all they get to eat in the winter are rutabagas.

I would argue for gently but ever increasing taxes on carbon spewing transportation fuel to get things to transition in the right direction. Food transported by electrically powered trains from clean sources would be cool. This happens in Europe..

]]> By: Some Links « Beer by Bike http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/18/the-hops-shortage-and-eating-locally/comment-page-1/#comment-1905 Some Links « Beer by Bike Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:09:55 +0000 http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/18/the-hops-shortage-and-eating-locally/#comment-1905 [...] good post over at the 100k house blog about the hop shortage and how it might lead to positive change, along with the floundering [...] [...] good post over at the 100k house blog about the hop shortage and how it might lead to positive change, along with the floundering [...]

]]> By: Jesse http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/18/the-hops-shortage-and-eating-locally/comment-page-1/#comment-1899 Jesse Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:31:21 +0000 http://www.100khouse.com/2008/11/18/the-hops-shortage-and-eating-locally/#comment-1899 I appreciate how interconnected these things are. It underscores how our interests are informed by a root ideology. Sustainability, localization, responsible living. Whether its beer, buildings, transportation, or even entertainment, more people are seeking better versions of it. Now as for the hop shortage, I think its a good thing that brewers are starting to look past huge double IPAs- the Mc Mansions of the beer world!! I appreciate how interconnected these things are. It underscores how our interests are informed by a root ideology. Sustainability, localization, responsible living. Whether its beer, buildings, transportation, or even entertainment, more people are seeking better versions of it.

Now as for the hop shortage, I think its a good thing that brewers are starting to look past huge double IPAs- the Mc Mansions of the beer world!!

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